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Post by horrorfanatic67 on Aug 1, 2002 16:15:52 GMT -5
halloween 1?
h2?
h4?
h5?
h6?
h7?
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Post by RIP on Mar 15, 2003 15:28:05 GMT -5
Halloween - 5 people and 2 dogs
Halloween 2 - 10 people
Halloween 4 - 18 people(including 3cops at station and 2 paramedics)
Halloween 5 - 11 people, 1 dog, and 8 cops shot at the end by unknown assailnt.
Halloween 6 - 14 people(including 5 doctors)
Halloween 7 - 6 people
Halloween 8 - around 8 or 9 I'm not sure about this one, I'll have to watch it again.
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Post by Neil (B$B) on Mar 16, 2003 19:21:48 GMT -5
Add 2 more to Halloween II since Loomis and Myers clearly both died at the end. lol
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Post by RIP on Mar 17, 2003 2:06:21 GMT -5
I'm not meaning any disrespect but there were only 10 kills in H2. One of my friends is good friends wtih Rick Rosenthal and he said that a lot of scenes were cut from the movie with Loomis and Michael survivng. Moustapha had the final decision in the film. There might be a new dvd coming out in late 2004 with the delete's in it. So in all reality they survived. Moustapha had H3 in his mine at the time.
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Post by Neil (B$B) on Mar 17, 2003 5:47:22 GMT -5
No disrespect at all mate! These type of conversations are what makes film forums interesting. I'll talk about what I know for certain about Halloween II and I'm sure that other folks around here will be able to chip in with further information as well.
Rick Rosenthal certainly did deliver a VERY different film to the one that we saw. After Rosenthal finished the feature, John Carpenter shot many alternative or additional scenes himself and inserted them (he wanted the film to be more violent and to have a higher death count like the subsequent F13th movies because he was worried that the audience would feel that they hadn't got their moneys worth).
As a result of this, the unhappy Rosenthal heavily considered taking his name off the credits and having it replaced it with the old "Alan Smithee" pseudonym that directors use when they're not happy with the end product. Get your mate to ask Rosenthal about this. These extra scenes were filmed at the same time as that extra stuff filmed for the television version of H1.
I'm under the impression (but not certain) that Loomis and Myers were meant to die in an explosion at the end of H2 in the script but Moustapha "make that money" Akkad probably wasn't too impressed with that. I doubt that Akkad would have been too keen on killing Myers off as surely Halloween Resurrection kinda proves after he came back from having his head cut off (do you buy that "now get out of that" explanation in HR?). That's just supposition on my part though.
-I know for definite that the young girl who is killed by Myers (just after he steals the kitchen knife from a woman's sandwhich making board!) is certainly shot by JC without Rosenthal's input or permission. (that's actually my fave scene is this sequel)
-Also Jimmy the paramedic with the great hairstyle that keeps on harrassing poor old Laurie Strode was actually meant to be a survivor. Footage was shot of him being taken away in an ambulance with Strode.
-The scene with the nurse having an empty air filled hyperdermic needle being pumped into her brain was also shot by JC but I don't know if she was originally meant to survive in the Rosenthal cut.
-Oddly enough, the non-violent scene where one nurse (the one who arrives late for her duty) talks to her friend after a party and offers to give her a lift home was also shot by JC.
So what other info on these differences can the other folks here come up with?
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Post by Neil (B$B) on Mar 17, 2003 5:54:18 GMT -5
Oh and I heavily suspect that the rather tacky face in boiling water whilst breasts are on display scene was also shot by JC. Two reasons:
A. It doesn't seem in keeping with the film that Rosenthal wantyed to make.
B. It's almost identical to a classic death scene (minus the breasts) in Dario Argento's Deep Red. And Carpenter is a big Dario Argento fan. DA & JC even meet up once a year as they became friends after the gushing letter that a young JC once sent DA when he'd finished Halloween 1.
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Post by RIP on Mar 17, 2003 11:24:38 GMT -5
You're absolutley right Neil about JC filming some of this movie. Some of the shots were added for Halloween(the original) tv time slot on NBC. It can be seen on Halloween: Extended Scenes dvd. I fortunately have it and can't wait for the 25th anniversary edition of Halloween to come out this fall. ;D
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Post by Neil (B$B) on Mar 17, 2003 12:01:52 GMT -5
Yeah, I'm pretty stoked about that new version of Halloween as well. I'm really looking forward to hearing the JC commentary track (I believe it will contain a commentary track?). There was a highly enjoyable but sadly short lived tv series shown here in the UK two or three years ago where a director would give a half hour interview on one of their greatest or most famous films. The JC episode concentrated on Halloween and there was a fascinating section of the show where JC chatted thru the first 5 minutes of the film with the interviewer. It certainly boded well for a full-length commentary.
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Post by RIP on Mar 17, 2003 13:25:58 GMT -5
Neil did you see Masters of Horror on tv last year. It was hosted by Bruce Campbell and lasted about 2 hours on Halloween night. All the great directors such as JC, Argento, Romero, Craven, Tobe Hooper,etc. were on there discussing their most famous horror movies. It was real interesting. ;D
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Post by Neil (B$B) on Mar 17, 2003 14:11:15 GMT -5
Sadly no but I really wish that I had seen it. I live in the UK and it didn't make it over here, more's the pity. Not only am I a big fan of Bruce Campbell and his sense of humour but I like all of those directors especially Carpenter and Argento. Can you recall which film or films Dario discussed? I should say that Suspiria would be a very safe bet.  |
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Post by RIP on Mar 17, 2003 17:35:52 GMT -5
Here's a list of some of the directors and which film of theirs that they talked about:
Dario Argento - Suspiria
John Carpenter - Halloween
Wes Craven - A Nightmare on Elm Street
Tobe Hooper - Texas Chainsaw Massacre
Sean Cunningham - Friday the 13th
George Romero - Night of the Living Dead
Guillermo Del Toro - Cronos and Devil's Backbone
And there were a couple of others but I don't remember who they were. The directors talked about how they made and came up with the story for their film. Also they said what they are really afraid of. ;D
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Post by Neil (B$B) on Mar 18, 2003 10:57:55 GMT -5
lol Really? Can you can recall what George Romero, John Carpenter and Dario Argento said that they were afraid of? I'd love to hear. Dario probably said the modern incarnation of Daria Nicolodi. |
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Post by RIP on Mar 18, 2003 12:31:00 GMT -5
Neil, I really can't remember. I'm sure that it will come back on tv this coming halloween. But I do remember JC saying that he watched scary movies when he was younger by cutting all the lights out in the house and smoke you a Cheech 'n Chong size joint and then you would be pertrified during the whole movie.
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Post by Neil (B$B) on Mar 18, 2003 13:07:41 GMT -5
Oh man, JC is such a cool guy and I love his sardonic sense of humour. I'd really love to meet him for a good ol' chin-wag about movies and music. Ideally in Amsterdam. lol |
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